So two wins justifies a 7 seed compared to not even getting in?
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So two wins justifies a 7 seed compared to not even getting in?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So two wins justifies a 7 seed compared to not even getting in? </div></div>
its more than that
miami had those 2 top 50 wins
and also had 3 more regular season wins
put them together......yes......thats enough of a difference to get you in
and for the record as a canes fan......i thought after losing in the 2nd game of the ACCT we deserved no better than a 9 seed
i figured two wins in charlotte would be needed to get a 7
VT's schedule was stronger though, might be the reason why the Canes had two more wins and less conference wins.
Was it really that much stronger? Either way, Miami's only bad nonconference loss was to a team that made the tourney. It does look better than VT's to be honest. I don't think Miami is very good either.
I really can't believe you are talking trash about VT playing Morgan St. they took Miami to the wire in Miami earlier this season.
It must be the apocalypse...cause PVFan is on VT's side. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
Neither are great but they both deserved to be in.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">VT's schedule was stronger though, might be the reason why the Canes had two more wins and less conference wins.</div></div>
thats idiotic at best
VT SOS was 40 miami was 48
RPI miami was 32 VT was 53
miami beat miss st and dook
VT beat nobody
case closed
VT 63
Miami 49
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1inStripes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was it really that much stronger? Either way, Miami's only bad nonconference loss was to a team that made the tourney. It does look better than VT's to be honest. I don't think Miami is very good either. </div></div>
it wasnt even a bad loss
winthrop only won by 6
miami - NCAA tourney
VT - NIT
Like I said they both should be in, but VT beat Miami by 14 on a neutral floor at the end of the year. You and the selection committee say thats more important. Both played terrible at times this year and great at others which is why they both should have been 9-11 seeds.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Like I said they both should be in, but VT beat Miami by 14 on a neutral floor at the end of the year. You and the selection committee say thats more important. Both played terrible at times this year and great at others which is why they both should have been 9-11 seeds. </div></div>
nobody said that winning one game in a postseason conference tourney is more important than beating top teams during the regular season
nowhere did anybody say that
and as for what was said about the selection criteria.......it was said that they look at each teams resume individually which is why miami finished lower in the ACC and still got in
better overall resume
just accept the fact that VTs resume sucked money nuts and move on
What is done is done (water under the bridge now). The Hokies could do like Virginia did back with Stith and co. That club won 21,had an above .500 record in the ACC,felt snubbed,and proved a point by winning the NIT Championship. Maybe they could deal out NCAA bids,wait a week or so and watch the NIT tournament,and add the 2 NIT finalists to the NCAA field. I know that is not possible,but it sure would intensify the NIT.
if VT had won 21 games they would have a right to feel snubbed
but they didnt......so it isnt a fair comparison
Not a comparison. I am just saying that if they feel snubbed,then prove a point and win the NIT. When UVA won it,they had a right to say "I told you so".
but they wont win the NIT.......basically because they arent really that good
oh and when they bow out of the NIT early.......im willing to bet that some here are going to back with the whole thing about them being pissed off they got left out of the field of 65 and that they didnt want to be there so they didnt take the game seriously
bank on it
If you love the game,and are granted post-season play and lay down,you have no business being on the court. If the Hokies can't find motivation by feeling snubbed,then they are hopeless. I expect them to indeed be fired up,dump Morgan State,and make a run.
Or maybe, the ref's cheated...lol
The Miami win that VT had should really have never been an issue--speaking of refs. Vassallo, Allen, and Washington were allowed to hack at will from about 9 minutes to go in that game until the buzzer, and Allen with 4 fouls. Not to mention the 3.5 step takeoff Allen had to dunk the ball 6 foot from the bucket one time in the 2nd half. There's a reason why it was a tight ballgame (42-41 Miami) until 9 minutes to go and then ended up a 14 point win for VT.
So even then, VT got some help--and still couldn't get in the field.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VictorY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hate tech but they got robbed!
Only four teams!!! Thats a joke!!! FSU and VT should be in the tourney </div></div>
FSU gets beat at home tonight by Akron in the NIT. Thank goodness they weren't let in.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Indian_Dad</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VictorY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hate tech but they got robbed!
Only four teams!!! Thats a joke!!! FSU and VT should be in the tourney </div></div>
FSU gets beat at home tonight by Akron in the NIT. Thank goodness they weren't let in. </div></div>
yeah they really showed they belonged
this is yet another instance why im glad those decisions are left up to people that have a clue
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Indian_Dad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you love the game,and are granted post-season play and lay down,you have no business being on the court. If the Hokies can't find motivation by feeling snubbed,then they are hopeless. I expect them to indeed be fired up,dump Morgan State,and make a run. </div></div>
94-62 Hokies. What were you saying about VT bowing out early in the NIT Blue Wahoo? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
please
they played morgan [censored] state
Still moving on. They have as good a shot as anybody else in the field.
Bet the Canes weren't saying "It's Morgan State" when they scratched out a 55-51 win on the Canes' home floor [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Indian_Dad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bet the Canes weren't saying "It's Morgan State" when they scratched out a 55-51 win on the Canes' home floor [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] </div></div>
...and the earth shuddered under our feet with a Batman-esque "KA-POW!!!" [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif[/img]
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z.../applause2.gif
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Indian_Dad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still moving on. They have as good a shot as anybody else in the field.
Bet the Canes weren't saying "It's Morgan State" when they scratched out a 55-51 win on the Canes' home floor [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] </div></div>
it was early in the season......and remember that was the same canes team picked to finish dead last in the ACC
great they won a game........great job on that
they still dont deserve to be in the big dance
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Indian_Dad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still moving on. They have as good a shot as anybody else in the field.
Bet the Canes weren't saying "It's Morgan State" when they scratched out a 55-51 win on the Canes' home floor [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] </div></div>
it was early in the season......and remember that was the same canes team picked to finish dead last in the ACC
great they won a game........great job on that
they still dont deserve to be in the big dance </div></div>
Didn't Miami start off 13-1 including an 11-0 start? It's not like they struggled early.
yes they did
Well they did manage to beat VCU (which barely missed the tournament) and Mississippi State on the road.
that they did
they beat VCU out of the country......not just on the road
that first loss was by 6 to another tourney team.......winthrop by 6
mc clinton lit it up for 30 but they shot like [censored] in the 2nd half or thay would have won that game also
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Indian_Dad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is a joke (see my other thread). The PAC 10 sends a 19-14 squad and a 18-13 squad. What an overrated conference (which this tourney may very well show) </div></div>
That one was money. AZ and Oregon go tits up in round 1. One finishes 19-14,other 18-14
arizona played one of the toughest scheduled in the country this year
if they played VTs schedule they would have won 25
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">arizona played one of the toughest scheduled in the country this year
if they played VTs schedule they would have won 25 </div></div>
They were also 4-8 in their last 12 games before the tourney. Doesn't matter how tough the schedule is if you don't win does it?
In VT's case, it doesn't matter how easy the schedule is if you don't beat anybody to speak of. Catch 22.
The Big East has biotch slapped the ACC this weekend it seems...lol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Big East has biotch slapped the ACC this weekend it seems...lol </div></div>
BE is 2-2 so far